- 企業營運產生來的現金﹐這將反映在股價上昇﹐或者股息增加
- 股價上昇是因為市場先生樂意對這企業付出更高的買價
- 股價上昇是因為市場先生認為之前的股價低于企業價值﹐所以抬高了股價﹐股價與價值之差變小了
‘To be a value investor, you must buy at a discount from underlying value. Analyzing each potential value investment opportunity therefore begins with an assessment of business value.
While a great many methods of business valuation exist, there are only three that I find useful.’
- Net present value (NPV) analysis. NPV is the discounted value of all future cash flows that a business is expected to generate.In effect, value businesses using the multiples paid when comparable businesses were previously bought and sold in their entirety.
- The second method of business valuation analyzes liquidation value(清盤價值), the expected proceeds if a company were to be dismantled and the assets sold off. Breakup value, one variant of liquidation analysis, considers each of the components of a business at its highest valuation, whether as part of a going concern or not.
- The third method of valuation, stock market value, is an estimate of the price at which a company, or its subsidiaries considered separately, would trade in the stock market.Less reliable than the other two, this method is only occasionally useful as a yardstick of value.
所以﹐懂得如何判斷企業價值(underlying value)﹐才能成為成功的投資人。
Hi Cow,
ReplyDeletehow are you?
long time no chat la.
I finished my part one study and now in "summer holiday" :p
recently I buy a DAC from China through taobao.com and found it is a very good service especially in China. But it seems not under the listed company 1688 but under Alibaba outside 1688. If this is true, I sold 1688 is correct even I had loss.
2010 had past 1/2, it is time to review our investment portfolio. I saw you sold some stocks in mid-June. So happen, I bought 1 more stock in early June. I do think it is good to buy under 20,000 point. And guess HSI will > 25,000 in the 2nd half and finally reach 40,000 before another bear market. Therefore, I will not sell until reach my target unless change from sector to sector.
"我同意優良的企業﹐在股價下跌了﹐其回報是增加的﹐而非風險增加。"
For this statement you quote is true but has contra itself. It has a pre-assumption: 優良的企業, but how come a "優良的企業" has 股價下跌了? how do we know "when will it stop downward and rebound? If it keeps 股價下跌, then the 回報 will keeps 增加的, REALLY?
There are many "investment theory", we must think and think and think are they really valid.
cheers,
Spyder
Dear Spyder,
ReplyDelete恭喜完成學業﹗
好好的享受假期吧。
過去﹐我執著于優良的企業。我發覺這是錯誤的。我應該發掘企業的價值﹐只要企業的未來營運能維持它價值﹐只要我的買入價超低于價值就可以了。
謝謝指點。
Hi Cow,
ReplyDelete別客氣.
In fact, a good 企業 will not need you and me to 發掘企業的價值, there are many many clever investor in the market doing this. Therefore, we cannot 買入價格低于價值的企業. We can only but those we believe it is "格低于價值的企業". In reality, the future of these 企業 may not obey/follow our thinking. Then we get loss, if we hardly belive ourselve, we keep wait for the price rebound. But it can still drop.
We cannot able to know a company more then the mangement working inside. If we do, it is insider trade, is offence.
In the past year, I told all my surounds to buy "The Link", they all said it is too expensive and it is too stable. Even myself bought it at a comparative high price (avg. ~$17). When I say it can reach $60, they all said me crazy.
I also bought 3382 in last year at $3, it dropped to $1.5 this month. I was study a lot of information before I buy but it goes worst over my expectation. Am I bought it too expensive? I think I didn't, when I bought it, I believe I got it with a cheap price. :D
for you information, I bought 3 stocks and sold 1 in this year. I think I'm a lazy investor la. :p
原諒我長氣。 無論技術分析也好,價值投資也好;都不要盡信,當做唯一正道。物極必反!
我不單只願意投資十年,更願意 "做" 那一盤生意才投資。
cheers,
Spyder