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So these are nine records of "coin-flippers" from Graham-and-Doddsville. I haven't selected them with hindsight from among thousands. It's not like I am reciting to you the names of a bunch of lottery winners -- people I had never heard of before they won the lottery. I selected these men years ago based upon their framework for investment decision-making. I knew what they had been taught and additionally I had some personal knowledge of their intellect, character, and temperament. It's very important to understand that this group has assumed far less risk than average; note their record in years when the general market was weak. While they differ greatly in style, these investors are, mentally, always buying the business, not buying the stock. A few of them sometimes buy whole businesses. Far more often they simply buy small pieces of businesses. Their attitude, whether buying all or a tiny piece of a business, is the same. Some of them hold portfolios with dozens of stocks; others concentrate on a handful. But all exploit the difference between the market price of a business and its intrinsic value.
I'm convinced that there is much inefficiency in the market. These Graham-and-Doddsville investors have successfully exploited gaps between price and value. When the price of a stock can be influenced by a "herd" on Wall Street with prices set at the margin by the most emotional person, or the greediest person, or the most depressed person, it is hard to argue that the market always prices rationally. In fact, market prices are frequently nonsensical.
I would like to say one important thing about risk and reward. Sometimes risk and reward are correlated in a positive fashion. If someone were to say to me, "I have here a six-shooter and I have slipped one cartridge into it. Why don't you just spin it and pull it once? If you survive, I will give you $1 million." I would decline -- perhaps stating that $1 million is not enough. Then he might offer me $5 million to pull the trigger twice -- now that would be a positive correlation between risk and reward!
The exact opposite is true with value investing. If you buy a dollar bill for 60 cents, it's riskier than if you buy a dollar bill for 40 cents, but the expectation of reward is greater in the latter case. The greater the potential for reward in the value portfolio, the less risk there is.
One quick example: The Washington Post Company in 1973 was selling for $80 million in the market. At the time, that day, you could have sold the assets to any one of ten buyers for not less than $400 million, probably appreciably more. The company owned the Post, Newsweek, plus several television stations in major markets. Those same properties are worth $2 billion now, so the person who would have paid $400 million would not have been crazy.
Now, if the stock had declined even further to a price that made the valuation $40 million instead of $80 million, its beta would have been greater. And to people that think beta measures risk, the cheaper price would have made it look riskier. This is truly Alice in Wonderland. I have never been able to figure out why it's riskier to buy $400 million worth of properties for $40 million than $80 million. And, as a matter of fact, if you buy a group of such securities and you know anything at all about business valuation, there is essentially no risk in buying $400 million for $80 million, particularly if you do it by buying ten $40 million piles of $8 million each. Since you don't have your hands on the $400 million, you want to be sure you are in with honest and reasonably competent people, but that's not a difficult job.
You also have to have the knowledge to enable you to make a very general estimate about the value of the underlying businesses. But you do not cut it close. That is what Ben Graham meant by having a margin of safety. You don't try and buy businesses worth $83 million for $80 million. You leave yourself an enormous margin. When you build a bridge, you insist it can carry 30,000 pounds, but you only drive 10,000 pound trucks across it. And that same principle works in investing.
In conclusion, some of the more commercially minded among you may wonder why I am writing this article. Adding many converts to the value approach will perforce narrow the spreads between price and value. I can only tell you that the secret has been out for 50 years, ever since Ben Graham and Dave Dodd wrote Security Analysis, yet I have seen no trend toward value investing in the 35 years that I've practiced it. There seems to be some perverse human characteristic that likes to make easy things difficult. The academic world, if anything, has actually backed away from the teaching of value investing over the last 30 years. It's likely to continue that way. Ships will sail around the world but the Flat Earth Society will flourish. There will continue to be wide discrepancies between price and value in the marketplace, and those who read their Graham & Dodd will continue to prosper.
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以上文章若以顏色字顯示﹐那是一只牛個人認為精典之處。各花入各眼﹐那只是個人意見而已。
Hi Cow,
ReplyDeletesorry for late reply.
I'm not very clear about 330 and didn't study it's report in details.
IMHO, I don't believe its' success due to Euro currency (Hutchison also many business / asset in Euro area). I think it takes 100% of China ESPRIT is "money market strategy" more than business decision. I don't know how much $ it paid to 291 for this 50% shares. But if it is so good, why 291 give it up?
I don't know if 330 will success in China but by applying Buffett's rule: "get away from those I wonder".
If I focus on fashion retail in China, there are many other choice.
another idea for you: "comparative advantage"
cheers,
Spyder
雪佛提出十大投資股票黃金規則︰
ReplyDelete1. 股票市場有時機好壞之分
2. 想要在股市裏賺錢,一定要有投資至少二至五年的心理準備
3. 至少購買五種不同產業的股票,但不要超過十種
4. 買賣股票後,才是真正的獲利或損失
5. 獲利來自於股價上漲,以及股息
6. 股市暴跌更好,因提供一個可以低價買入它們的機會
7. 不要道聽途說,和別人做一樣的事得到也和別人一樣
8. 正確的時機和理性的決定是基本要求
9. 絕不能以借貸來投資股票
10. 物價上漲的速度永遠大於貨幣貶值的速度
Dear Spyder,
ReplyDelete1)330
a)
根據公告﹐330以38.8億港元向291購買49%權益。
它在中國的稅後盈利﹕
2007年=2.6億港元
2008年=3.6億港元
2009年(6個月)=1.1億港元
粗劣估計得到5%IRR
b)330最特別之處是它的現金流﹐03年至今都能保持著正現金流入﹐而且數量可觀。甚至在2009年﹐它的自由現金流入只是稍微減少﹐若比較股價50港元是25倍。而2010年6個月﹐比較股價50港元已經改善成15倍。
雖然﹐比較漢登控股(0448)的9倍﹐330顯得昂貴。
但是﹐比較現金流量的穩定性﹑市值和過去市場給予的評價﹐330又顯得價廉物美。
俗語說﹕審美觀因人而異。
最重要的是原則和數據﹐加上組合的風險控制謹慎﹐而且還需要符合個人性格。況且如你所說﹐市場有很多選擇﹐所以並非得投資330才能有明天。
2)謝謝你的黃金規則﹐真棒﹗
Hi Cow,
ReplyDeleteI bought 3993 last week and next target will be 0013.
I follow 0013 over 10 years but it usually let invesstor dispointed.
buy 3993 only because I "believe" it is cheap. with your wording is: its' price under value. 0013 is the cheapest one within blue chips. my agent always telling me to get away from this stock. Valuation is interesting because different people has different valuations... :D
cheers,
Spyder
Dear 蜘蛛兄﹐
ReplyDelete它們即將成為您的美味食物﹐
我替它們禱告。